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Khoa Do: refugee, previous Young Australian of the Year, and prolific local filmmaker (director of Footy Legends, Mother Fish, Missing Water, and The Finished People), joins barrister and human rights advocate Julian Burnside, QC, to discuss the politics and practice of the immigrant experience, from the headlines to the big screen, and how he produced his latest film, Falling for Sahara, developed in collaboration with members of the Ethiopian, Eritrean, Sudanese and Somalian communities.